This could really shake things up in the EV market here
It’d be great to see BYD lead a revival of light vehicles here… maybe it might encourage Toyota to bring back Daihatsu.
Storm said:
It’d be great to see BYD lead a revival of light vehicles here… maybe it might encourage Toyota to bring back Daihatsu.
Toyota will likely remain as a BYD rebadge in the future because they haven’t invested enough in EV tech and don’t want to admit they’ve been focusing on the wrong technologies for so long.
@Corey
They have hybrids figured out well, and hybrids are here to stay for a long time, especially PHEVs.
Fin said:
@Corey
They have hybrids figured out well, and hybrids are here to stay for a long time, especially PHEVs.
I view hybrids as a temporary fix, good for maybe two 7-year cycles until we shift to full electric.
@Corey
Toyota has been making hybrids for over 20 years. They discontinued their most efficient Priuses to focus on larger car sales like the RAV4 hybrid. We need to remember that history goes back more than just a few months.
@Aki
He’s suggesting two MORE 7-year cycles. That’s another 14 years of hybrids ahead of us. I think the forecast is right; hybrids could be pretty much gone by 2038.
Toyota will likely remain as a BYD rebadge… this option has been effectively blocked in the US due to Biden’s executive orders banning Chinese software in cars.
@Corey
It’s a national icon of Japan. It’s unrealistic to think this could actually happen.
Keegan said:
@Corey
It’s a national icon of Japan. It’s unrealistic to think this could actually happen.
That’s precisely why it could happen…
Keegan said:
@Corey
It’s a national icon of Japan. It’s unrealistic to think this could actually happen.
That’s precisely why it could happen…
These companies follow policies that support their national champions. Many believe there’s fascism in the US. Not yet… Countries like France, Japan, and Korea won’t let a national champion fail. They have used their legal systems to protect companies before. They’ll do whatever it takes. It isn’t a free market.
@Corey
If you think they’re not investing in EV tech, I have a bridge to sell you…> Toyota will likely remain as a BYD rebadge in the future… When? 2025?
The BYD Dolphin is a great affordable car. I know some people in Brazil who own it and are really happy .
JasonStatham said:
The BYD Dolphin is a great affordable car. I know some people in Brazil who own it and are really happy!
I have one. It’s a fantastic package. Not perfect, but it fits our needs perfectly.
@Leo
That’s good to hear. It’s compact, affordable, and does the job well.
The base model Dolphin was hard to recommend because it feels so underpowered. It doesn’t need to be a Model 3 Performance, but having 70hp in a modern city hatchback, taking forever to reach 100, is just not acceptable. Not sure if Seagull will be the solution. The Aussie market is shifting towards larger utes like in the US. If Ford released a Ranger Lightning, you’d see one in every driveway.
@Toby
94-201hp depending on the battery pack. Standard Range 0-100 in 12.3s and Long Range 0-100 in 7s.
@Toby
Strange perspective… BYD isn’t racing to the bottom here. The company is also releasing a ute. They just have many models—the Seagull is just one of them.
0-100 time measured in years is not okay… 12.3s is fine for a little run-around. (It’s 70kW/95hp, not 70hp).
Skyler said:
@Toby
0-100 time measured in years is not okay… 12.3s is fine for a little run-around. (It’s 70kW/95hp, not 70hp).
Don’t underestimate how instant torque feels.