Tesla has closed a loophole that allowed Kia owners to charge on their Superchargers. This decision has sparked some debate in the EV community. Is this the right move? Some believe it will benefit Tesla’s network, while others are upset by the change. What do you think?
Nacs shouldn’t have been made the standard. Almost everyone else was using CCS, but it seems like Elon probably influenced the decision makers.
Noah said:
Nacs shouldn’t have been made the standard. Almost everyone else was using CCS, but it seems like Elon probably influenced the decision makers.
I’m not a fan of Musk either, and using a Supercharger is not my first choice. CCS is bulky and awkward to use, while NACS is more streamlined and easy to handle. I also think it’s more accessible for people with certain disabilities. I actually think it’s a better system overall.
@Vance
I feel like the non-cylindrical shape of CCS makes it easier to line up correctly, especially with that heavy cable that doesn’t twist easily.
Noah said:
Nacs shouldn’t have been made the standard. Almost everyone else was using CCS, but it seems like Elon probably influenced the decision makers.
Most EVs on the road and chargers are NACS. It wouldn’t have made sense to pick anything else as the standard in the US.
@Wylie
Most EVs that aren’t Teslas can’t even get a Tesla charge station cable to reach their charging port, so the abundance of Tesla chargers doesn’t really matter for non-Tesla EVs. However, pretty much every non-Tesla station can reach anywhere, and they all use CCS.
@Noah
Making CCS the standard wouldn’t solve the cord length issue or change the fact that Tesla chargers far outnumber all other chargers.
Wylie said:
@Noah
Making CCS the standard wouldn’t solve the cord length issue or change the fact that Tesla chargers far outnumber all other chargers.
It would at least push the growth of non-Tesla chargers instead of just making NACS the standard and leaving us stuck with the current flawed design.
@Noah
There’s nothing wrong with the NACS design.
Wylie said:
@Noah
There’s nothing wrong with the NACS design.
Newer Tesla chargers are placed so the cable will reach. You can still use older ones, but you’ll block two chargers in the process. If any other network had invested as much as Tesla in building and supporting their stations, there might be an argument, but no one compares to the Tesla network.
Wylie said:
@Noah
There’s nothing wrong with the NACS design.
I’m not a Tesla fanboy, but anyone who says the CCS standard is better clearly hasn’t used a NACS plug. It’s so much easier to use in cars designed for it than CCS1.
@Lane
Tesla’s Model 3 and Y have had CCS2 receptacles in the rest of the world for years. In some countries, you need 3-phase AC charging at home to get more than 3.6kW. NACS can’t do that. Tesla is the most common EV in New Zealand, and I’ve never heard any complaints about it being hard to use.
@Brady
I never said the world should switch to NACS. I just think it’s easier to use than CCS1, which is what I’ve used. I haven’t tried CCS2. I agree there are differences around the world, some good and some not. I love the idea of supplying your cable for public AC charging, but I don’t think it will happen in North America anytime soon. I’d love 240V 3-phase so we could get great home charging speeds, but we won’t force everyone to remove their 110 outlets or use adapters just to switch standards. For now, NACS and CCS1 work fine. In my experience, NACS is the clear winner.
@Lane
Exactly.
I really don’t care. I wasn’t planning on giving a Nazi any money anyway.
Amari said:
I really don’t care. I wasn’t planning on giving a Nazi any money anyway.
Is the Nazi in the room with you now?
That’s a dumb decision. Hopefully, the official rollout happens soon.
This delay is ridiculous. Some of us bought adapters planning to use them on or near the go-live date, and we were told less than two days before that there would be a big delay.
Lennon said:
This delay is ridiculous. Some of us bought adapters planning to use them on or near the go-live date, and we were told less than two days before that there would be a big delay.
This is typical for anything Elon is involved in. It’s like being surprised Lauryn Hill is late to her concert— at this point, it’s something you just expect.
What, another reason to dislike Tesla? Tell me this isn’t true.