How can I increase these rookie charging numbers

It’s 41 degrees Fahrenheit and rainy. The car next to me has been waiting at the charging station with me, and we arrived at the same time. We’ve been waiting for about an hour to charge. The car is a 2024 Niro with 1k miles on the odometer.

Did you pre-heat the battery?

Kip said:
Did you pre-heat the battery?

I set the nav to the station every time, but I only get 50 kWh at best, not 70. I’m not sure if that’s what you mean by pre-heating the battery. I also drive the car a little harder when heading to the station to heat it up.

Check the charging curve. This is about the best the Niro can do in ideal conditions. Also, I find plugging it in at 20% or lower gives better results than topping off from 40-50%.

Reilly said:
Check the charging curve. This is about the best the Niro can do in ideal conditions. Also, I find plugging it in at 20% or lower gives better results than topping off from 40-50%.

Also, avoid charging above 80%, because it’ll only give around 20 kW. The Niro also has ‘the Korean Siesta’ at around 81%, where it pulls 0-2 kW for 2-5 minutes while balancing the cells. I always unplug as soon as that happens if not sooner.

Did you do the locomotion?

Emerson said:
Did you do the locomotion?

Did you do the EV yoyo?

The Niro is on a low voltage platform, so I think it maxes out at 50 kW with a DC charger.

Lennon said:
The Niro is on a low voltage platform, so I think it maxes out at 50 kW with a DC charger.

The 2020 Niro maxes out at 85 kW. It might depend on the generation of the car.

When I run into this issue, I just move to another charger that’s free. That usually works for me.

I did a road trip from California to Colorado, and Electrify America was the only charger that consistently charged above 60 kW. After about 65%, the speed dropped as expected. The worst was ChargePoint, where both stations used the same circuit and split the charge rate. It charged at 26 kW until the other car left, then it jumped to 52 kW. If you have Winter mode, try turning it on.

I have a 1st gen Niro EV, and it tops at 76 kW when the battery is warm. Otherwise, it maxes at around 50 kW when cold, between 20% and 80%.

Sometimes EVGo doesn’t give you the max rate for whatever reason. Also, what was the other car? The 2nd gen Niro tops out at around 70 kW, I think.

Hollis said:
Sometimes EVGo doesn’t give you the max rate for whatever reason. Also, what was the other car? The 2nd gen Niro tops out at around 70 kW, I think.

Thanks for the response. The other car is a Lyriq. My Niro hasn’t hit 70 kW, and I’ve tried setting the nav to the station and driving a little rougher to heat the battery on colder days. I consistently get 50-55 kW, even on warmer days.

@Harley
Have you tried Electrify America, or just EVGo? I get faster speeds from Electrify America.

Hollis said:
@Harley
Have you tried Electrify America, or just EVGo? I get faster speeds from Electrify America.

I wish I could use the free credits from Electrify America, but their stations are always full or out of service. It’s been like this for weeks, and I’m in a high-density area. I can’t wait to use Tesla chargers soon.

@Harley
The only time my Niro hit 70 kW was at a Tesla Magic Dock in the summer.

Johnston said:
@Harley
The only time my Niro hit 70 kW was at a Tesla Magic Dock in the summer.

I’m watching my 3-month-old car pulling 19 kW at 70% charge with 25 minutes left to go another 10%. I’ll need to check out these magical docks you’re talking about.

@Harley
You’re already at 70%? Think of it like a stadium; the energy is easy to get to when it’s less crowded, but as it fills up, it’s harder to get to your spot.

@Harley
You’re better off skipping fast charging at 70%.