Help! Kia Niro EV 2024 charging slowly at fast (200kW & 350kW) stations. What am I missing?

Hey guys!

I’m so frustrated with this rental EV that I had to post for help! Since picking it up, I’ve spent most of my time charging. Last night, on Christmas, I spent an hour at a 200kW “fast” charger and only went from 30% to 80%. Later, I used a 350kW charger and got to 90%, but it took ages. Today, I’m back at a 200kW charger and still having issues. I’ve spent more on “electricity” than I would have on gas for the same distance. What am I doing wrong?

I’m missing my Mazda 3, it’s cheaper and more convenient. This can’t be normal, or no one would drive an EV.

Why did EVgo show 24kW instead of 200kW? It eventually dropped to 19kW. Is this what people mean by “slowing down when the charger gets full”?

I’ve attached photos and info about the charger. Also, the heater doesn’t get hot, and the automatic trunk doesn’t work.

Could there be another issue?

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For cars in high-charging states, this is actually normal no need for alarm. The car is the one that determines your charge rate most of the time, not the charger.

Your charge will reach its maximum at either the charger’s specification or 80kW, as the current Niro max is approximately 80kW. Therefore, you won’t get more than 50kW if you are at a 50kW charger.

In addition, you won’t notice any more than 80kW if the charger you are using is rated greater than that.

Only when the battery is at the proper temperature and charge level—roughly 20%—will you notice that peak. As you put more charge into it, it will swiftly lose momentum.

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Wooow, such a nice and detailed response.

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I can actually confirm that the Niro charges more slowly than other devices. On the other hand, it is better for the battery.

I guess that a 30-80 charge in the summer will take 40 minutes, but I don’t have any firsthand information to support it. It would take considerably longer to charge outside in extremely cold weather.

Have you got yourself the bundle for winter? It has a battery warmer included, which will enhance battery performance in the winter. If not, consider getting one.

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Limiting the charge at 71%–74% SOC, or where the '23–‘24 models’ charging speed falls on the curve, will help you save time on long trips, however, this is not always practicable.

Even after two hours of driving at 75 mph, you will still allow an additional 5 to 15 minutes for the battery to heat up sufficiently to charge at its maximum rate if you ever experience colder weather. Preconditioning is present in the '23–'24 models, but the sad news is that it is inoperative below 20% SOC.

When it is convenient, I usually drain the battery of our '20 Niro EV to 10% SOC before embarking on lengthy travels. Because there are motor power limitations, I try not to fall below 7% SOC.

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The main points have been covered by other forum members, but it appears that another car may have been using the charger concurrently. It does not really matter because the Nissan Leaf and Niro charge slowly (the EV Go charger I use allows two cars to utilize the same charger).

If you rent a different car, later on, it can become relevant. It is best to utilize a charger that nobody else is hooked into, if at all feasible. If so, the available charge must be divided between the two cars.

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The rate is shown as approximately 7.5 and 11.75, which are both less than what I receive on my home charger :grinning: :grinning:. It appears that you were paying for charge volts or rates that you weren’t receiving, and the true question of how quickly it will charge is unknown because I don’t know the amperage of the charger.

Assuming you have a 10 A unit, it will take a lot longer to charge than my 50 A unit. Based on how many people are busy, it appears like you don’t have enough electricity to go around either.

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Before I go too far, the maximum charging power for your car is a mere 64 kW. If you have a higher capacity to adjust it, the charger’s speed will not determine how quickly your car charges.

The condition of your battery needs to be warm; you must precondition—and your charge level—if you are at 63%, for example, your charge will proceed more slowly than if it is at 30%—are far more crucial.

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Because these rapid chargers are so broken, the station had to state 24 kWh :laughing:. The station speed should have been 85 KWh because the Kia Niro EV can charge at that rate. In 45 minutes, you should get from 10% to 80%, at the slower end of the charging spectrum for electric cars.

The quickest EVs charge at 250 kWh and take 15-20 minutes to charge from 20% to 80%. Even with these quick EV chargers, after the car reaches 80%, the output drops from 250 kWh to 8 or 9 kWh. Even if you need to charge more frequently, avoid attempting a fast charge beyond 80%.

To make owning an EV less burdensome, people truly need home chargers. Additionally, tenants must have more dependable public charging infrastructure to drive clean vehicles.

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It should be charging more quickly than it is. Niro’s maximum power is 82 kW, but that is only available at low SOC for about five months. Thus, charging is a little slow.

It also coldgates. When the temperature of the battery is low, the car limits the speed of charge to protect the battery from damage.

It is possible to prepare the battery so that it is at the ideal temperature and charging speed when it reaches the charger. To do this, ensure sure the charger is set as the destination in the onboard satellite navigation system. The battery will be preheated for fifteen minutes before arrival.

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You are here online making noise yet you are not providing enough information to be helped. First off stop wasting money on 350kw chargers. The car maxes out at 85. Secondly, batteries slow their charge as they near 80%. Your goal should be under 80% for fast charging.

I think am done.

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Take it easy on him. Hope he has learn his lesson.