Koa said:
Good luck with Stellantis build quality
I mean we do both drive ID4s with questionable software.
In our defence, our cars costed nowhere near as much though.
Koa said:
Good luck with Stellantis build quality
I mean we do both drive ID4s with questionable software.
In our defence, our cars costed nowhere near as much though.
Don’t worry, VW spent almost $6 billion to fix those software issues by getting Rivian’s help 
Koa said:
Good luck with Stellantis build quality
I mean we do both drive ID4s with questionable software.
In our defence, our cars costed nowhere near as much though.
Looking to trade mine in for an R2 next year. 
@Hollis
This is like fixing your day trading habit by getting into crypto.
Koa said:
Good luck with Stellantis build quality
Yeah I was fooled by that company once, never again.
Lot of reviewers are shitting on this car but it looks like most problems are fixable, at least for the next production year. How do the brakes feel? Out of spec was complaining about that but maybe he’s just not used to stopping a vehicle like this.
@Owen
I agree brakes are…”pedestrian”. 2 piston calipers up front, single piston in back. Has the regen brakes factored in there too. I’m coming out of a Grand Cherokee SRT8 with 6 piston Brembo’s front, 4 rear so love the stopping performance. The WagoneerS stops, sure, but I would have liked a “big brake” option.
Congrats! It looks like a sweet ride and has an insane amount of power. Enjoy your new ride!
Blake said:
Congrats! It looks like a sweet ride and has an insane amount of power. Enjoy your new ride!
Thanks! I see you have a Mach-e. I had a “Orange” GT on order, test drove, deposit down, actual arrived at a local dealership. How you liking it?
@Avery
The MME GT has been the easiest and most fun car I’ve ever owned. There are some compromises though with the GT that the Wagoneer takes care of; chiefly the ability to go down a washboard dirt road and a hitch receiver for carrying bikes. It doesn’t hurt that the Wagoneer can beat my 2021 GT both 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile.
While I’m sure there will be a few little things that crop up with your new car (as you’d expect with a new model), I think you’ll enjoy the car and have a ton of fun. Hopefully Stellantis gets Supercharger access soon plus a lot more iONNA stations get built before road trip season starts. Enjoy .
@Blake
Have you looked into the MME GT Ralley? Looks fun .
@Avery
The interior of the Jeep seems a step above the Mach E based on photos. But I’m considering these two, as well.
Rin said:
@Avery
The interior of the Jeep seems a step above the Mach E based on photos. But I’m considering these two, as well.
The MME’s interior is well done and I’d characterize it as premium. The Wagoneer looks like another step above and looks more like what you’d expect in a luxury SUV.
Congrats, nice color
I like it. You’re not an EV guy, right? Curious as to how you’re going to get on with the awful EV route planning software? It’s the one thing giving me pause. May get one in next couple weeks depending on delivery to dealer
Does this have a third row like the regular Wagoneer? Is it the same size? I really would like an EV Tahoe sized vehicle where it has basically a full sized 3rd row
Can’t help it but from the side it reminds me of a Peugeot 3008/5008