Kia charging access … what’s the hold up?

I thought Kia or Tesla would have given an update about the January 15th date for opening Supercharger access by now. We’re not even showing up as ‘Coming Soon’ on Tesla’s pages, and Kia hasn’t said anything either. Does anyone know what’s going on? My guess is they’ll announce a delay around January 10th and push it to Q2.

They already announced January 15th, so I don’t see why they’d need to make another announcement.

Blue said:
They already announced January 15th, so I don’t see why they’d need to make another announcement.

I like how you’re staying positive. Tesla might not, but companies like Kia love repeating announcements.

@Beckett
Honestly, I’m not in a hurry to use such an expensive charging option. I’ve got the adapter just in case of emergencies, though.

Blue said:
@Beckett
Honestly, I’m not in a hurry to use such an expensive charging option. I’ve got the adapter just in case of emergencies, though.

EA chargers are still free for us, so they’re the cheapest option. I think Tesla on the I5 could be 50-70c per kWh.

Tesla usually doesn’t give much warning and just makes things work when they’re ready. I wouldn’t be surprised if it started working on the 15th with no big announcement. Superchargers are so slow with our cars that I’d only use one as a last resort.

@Wynn
How slow are they?

Gentry said:
@Wynn
How slow are they?

They max out at about 100kW until Tesla upgrades their chargers for 800v support. Then speeds should match other stations. Here’s some data someone posted: Link

Gentry said:
@Wynn
How slow are they?

It’s painfully slow—less than half the speed I’m used to at EA chargers.

Merrick said:

Gentry said:
@Wynn
How slow are they?

It’s painfully slow—less than half the speed I’m used to at EA chargers.

100kW isn’t that slow. I often only get 100-125kW at EA because all the stalls are in use. I’ve had to wait 30 minutes sometimes, and there’s usually one charger out of order. Tesla chargers near me are rarely crowded, and they’re much more reliable. I’m glad to have more options.

I got some survey emails from Kia a while back asking about prices for a Kia-branded adapter and if I’d join a test using Tesla Superchargers. I applied for the test but never heard back. That’s the last update I’ve seen from Kia.

@Payne
No new maps or software updates are needed. NACS uses the same CCS protocol. All we need is an adapter and for Tesla to stop blocking Kia VINs.

Wynn said:
@Payne
No new maps or software updates are needed. NACS uses the same CCS protocol. All we need is an adapter and for Tesla to stop blocking Kia VINs.

Actually, to find Tesla chargers on the car’s navigation and use pre-conditioning for fast charging, we will need a map update.

@Jamie
Good point. I usually use my phone’s navigation. Even with pre-conditioning, I sometimes choose a charger a few miles away and ignore the car’s navigation instructions.

Hyundai has put out a guide for using Superchargers. It’s on their website, so maybe something’s happening soon: Link

@Avery
Being capped at 125kW on 400v chargers is a dealbreaker for me. I’d only use this as a last resort compared to EA chargers.

Merrick said:
@Avery
Being capped at 125kW on 400v chargers is a dealbreaker for me. I’d only use this as a last resort compared to EA chargers.

It’s better to have the option than not. Tesla will eventually upgrade their Superchargers to v4, which will support 800v charging. It might take years, but having more charging options is always a good thing.